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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 21, 2011 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

...if we KNOW Phil is worth $35 mill!?

Are you kidding me? Why would he be touring for $ if that's true...?

People with 35 mil don't do ANYTHING they don't want to, at least all the ones I know.

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Jan 21, 2011 2:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

Don't know about the $35 million. But two years ago I sat directly across the aisle from Phil and his wife on a delta first class flight from Atlanta to San Francisco. They had no "handlers" getting them on the flight and when they got off in San Fran, they strolled down the terminal by themselves and stopped to look at some books on display in the airport bookstore. Most people with $35m fly private to avoid the airport hassles, etc.

p.s. I didn't bother Phil during the long flight, but did talk to him just a bit after we landed and told him how much I enjoyed his book. He was very friendly and talkative. Of course, it was really cool that during the flight I listened to nothing but either GD or Phil & Friends shows on my IPOD.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 21, 2011 2:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

I hear ya; as I outline elsewhere here today, though, my friends that know him as a local family man paint a pic of one that lives very modestly, and yet when the need arises (health issues), spends lavishly (as we ALL would of course).

So, not sure, but there ya have it--ie, contrasting portraits of what I think most of us consider an outstanding fellow, one who has not been transformed by his $$, however much it is, but uses it when necessary...?

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 21, 2011 2:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

Money changes everything no matter the struggle.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 21, 2011 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

$30-35 million was the figure that was being bandied about when there was the fuss at the end of last year about the funding for the UCSC archive ('why don't they pay for it their damned selves?'). Although admittedly I didn't look that hard, there seemed to be a distinct lack of a reliable source for this information.

Whatever the truth of the matter, based on the video and pictures I've seen and reports I've read Phil really does seem to be doing something he enjoys doing. Could be, I suppose, that doing it with the Furthur lot is an easier ride than taking the stage with a bunch of gadabout guitarslingers with their own ideas about how to play the stuff. I guess you can't deny a wealthy man in his 70s the right to the easy option if that's what he wants.

Now, as to what motivates the unhappy old walrus he has onstage with him, there you have me...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 21, 2011 12:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

('why don't they pay for it their damned selves?')
Yes , yes , yes! Archiving is a business. Frankly, a private (competent) business would be a better location for the GD archive. There are so many financial streams that will come out of that regardless of GD's openness with their work and current access they give us.

'Furthur.. is an easier ride than taking the stage with a bunch of gadabout guitarslingers with their own ideas about how to play the stuff'

And hence The reason for the current resident dawns on me.
Back to back rob. That's why you are the 'smith.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 21, 2011 1:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

Agree completely. Bob's a puzzle. Phil, I think, truly enjoys himself (good for him!), and I sometimes think "why doesn't he pick better bandmates [sorry, "friends of Bob!"], as that would seem to make it even more enjoyable (like Billy/Mickey seem to do?). Like he had going with some "Phil & friends" lineups...

But, maybe the experience, in a "non-musical perfection" sense, is truly rewarding for him (he just loves Bob...? Seriously--something along those lines mayhaps?).

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 21, 2011 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

So Phil is bringing the Ersatz Dead experience to those who crave such things while doing his good friend Bob a huge favour and making a tidy pile of spending cash in the process - and all by playing stuff he could perform in his sleep. Looks like a win all round for the old man!

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jan 21, 2011 7:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

>he just loves Bob?

well I was thinking something like that. I have the idea that relationship is pretty important to both of them.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jan 21, 2011 7:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

>Phil really does seem to be doing something he enjoys doing.

If you see them live, there really isn't any question about this. Phil = happy.

As for the unhappy old walrus, I don't know.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 21, 2011 10:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

Love or Money??
Let's go with love.

They ought to have found a competent guitarist. Too bad.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Jan 21, 2011 1:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wait--all these comments fall to the wayside...

For all the speculation, bashing and personal digs that one endures in this cesspool, what's the point of speculating anyone's financial net-worth?

Whatever amount of coin they posess, "they earned every penny of it".

And if you consider their contribution's to humanity, this would weigh heavier than any amount of gold.